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ceiling. >> was it compromise or just a strategy to move a bigger fight down the road? >> i think it's an indication, a telltale sign about where the republicans are. four years ago, when the president was making that speech, republicans were meeting at night. >> exactly. >> deciding how to defeat him when he won for re-election. they lost that, big time. he had a very robust electoral victory and significant popular vote victory. now the republicans are in disarray, trying to organize their party so they have a future. and they're going to have to deal with the reality of that as well. it is a party that is so broken into a lot of parts on the gop side and there's going to have to be a lot of mending down and more outreach as well. >> couple of key areas. the president has focused on energy independence. people close to him say that could be an unlikely bipartisan legacy for president obama and health care. party line vote, divided the country. implementation will be tough. he will have to spend a lot of time on it to see results. >> immigration was an area shown to be
ceiling. >> was it compromise or just a strategy to move a bigger fight down the road? >> i think it's an indication, a telltale sign about where the republicans are. four years ago, when the president was making that speech, republicans were meeting at night. >> exactly. >> deciding how to defeat him when he won for re-election. they lost that, big time. he had a very robust electoral victory and significant popular vote victory. now the republicans are in disarray,...
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i hope they delay the debt ceiling for three months and address spending in the house. that is what they will have to win. >>neil: they addressed that and they said earlier the move to delay the debt ceiling for another few months to me it seems like kicking the can down the road. i guess they think that maybe in that time they will get their act together but i am not so sure. >> i am not either, i am worried about the house of representatives. it is supposed to be the loyal opposition, and they supposed to compromise and work with the budget and work with the senate and make things happen but i worry very much if they retreat too far and collapse and cave. that would be a very major mistake to the united states. >>neil: quickly, art, did ronald reagan like the parades if maybe the second was indoors, everything was indoors that year, maybe the parade. but did he like the parades? that is something that comes with being a newly inaugurated president, did he enjoy it? >> he didn't enjoy the second. in 1985, it was the coldest year ever in history and it was amazing. no o
i hope they delay the debt ceiling for three months and address spending in the house. that is what they will have to win. >>neil: they addressed that and they said earlier the move to delay the debt ceiling for another few months to me it seems like kicking the can down the road. i guess they think that maybe in that time they will get their act together but i am not so sure. >> i am not either, i am worried about the house of representatives. it is supposed to be the loyal...
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they hope to get the ball rolling there and hope to continue that through the next round of debt ceiling talks. remember, neil, there are two issues that the rating agencies are looking for, they want an orderly increase of the debt ceiling. they say no strings attached. you go further down into those press releases and they are saying, we want a budget deal, this year, 2013. that is something that republicans are looking for and that is something they hope to secure out of all of this. neil: peter barnes, if you are still with me, too, i want to bring you into this. secretary of state hillary clinton with john kerry. there was a clear message in the president's remarks that, of course, the u.s. will always be involved, i am paraphrasing of course. there is clearly a pullback here. a mentality expressed by the likes of chuck hagel and, of course, john kerry that the u.s. should not be involved in each and every crisis that comes up. in other words republican critics will say surrounding that role to international agencies, united nations or europe, more to the point. the french wanting s
they hope to get the ball rolling there and hope to continue that through the next round of debt ceiling talks. remember, neil, there are two issues that the rating agencies are looking for, they want an orderly increase of the debt ceiling. they say no strings attached. you go further down into those press releases and they are saying, we want a budget deal, this year, 2013. that is something that republicans are looking for and that is something they hope to secure out of all of this. neil:...
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and then with the debt ceiling, same thing. i do think there's some evidence that republicans are saying, you know, in part for public image reasons but maybe in part because of good economic reasons, we can't keep whacking away at the economy like this to please our base we ha. >> it's not about the two parties necessarily shifting their philosophical positions or moving together but more of a practical decision by the house leadership to recognize the limits on what they can accomplish with the majority in the house and the limits in terms of the public support for their position. you know, one of the things, chuck, the president used the campaign to do was to try to lay out in front of the public the competing visions for approaches to economic growth and deficit reduction. he feels like he's been vindicated, and i think republicans in the votes that jared was just talking about str recognized he has a point. >> yeah, but, john, it all boils down to there's a very different vision when you're talking about a government that
and then with the debt ceiling, same thing. i do think there's some evidence that republicans are saying, you know, in part for public image reasons but maybe in part because of good economic reasons, we can't keep whacking away at the economy like this to please our base we ha. >> it's not about the two parties necessarily shifting their philosophical positions or moving together but more of a practical decision by the house leadership to recognize the limits on what they can accomplish...
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, use the filibuster, use government shutdown, use the debt ceiling, use sequestration, any monkey wrench they can throw into the machinery they will throw into the machinery. that's a different faction than the republican party as it used to be and as in some cases it still is. >> yeah. well, chris, you know, it's interesting you said that because in talking to my -- a few of my republican friends as we left the inauguration, they were saying that they were a little tired of the tea party. these are republicans, a little tired of it, because these were friends of boehner. they felt that speaker boehner was doing a good job, but at the same time in trying to do some things with this president, i'm not talking about center, i'm talking about even right of center, and they were complaining after listening to the speech that there could be and should be more cooperation. but, again, you got about 50 tea partiers that are very active and very much to the far, far right. >> yeah. >> yeah, and they don't come to washington to listen or to meet anybody or to find common ground. they come here to
, use the filibuster, use government shutdown, use the debt ceiling, use sequestration, any monkey wrench they can throw into the machinery they will throw into the machinery. that's a different faction than the republican party as it used to be and as in some cases it still is. >> yeah. well, chris, you know, it's interesting you said that because in talking to my -- a few of my republican friends as we left the inauguration, they were saying that they were a little tired of the tea...
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one example the debt creel and controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive order approach a whole lot better than the legislative approach. you can't get all that foreign with executive order. you have to legislate and you have to legislate realistically. you have to realize you don't control the entire congress. >> republicans don't like that the president is converting his campaign apparatus into a purpose that helped him in his second term. they are thinking that is probably not a good sign in working in a bipartisan fashion. >> one area where they do not agree at all is over the budget. it>> it has been a source of problems when they work on critical issues and budget is a key c
one example the debt creel and controlli -- debt ceiling and what americans describe as out of control spending. what do key republicans take with the attitude toward congress at this point? >> to get real solutions president obama needs to understand what will pass in the republican led house. it will also be acceptable to him. lawmakers tend to be unhappy when the president goes around them. they called on mr. obama to do better. >> he speaks in general terms likes the executive...
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ceiling temporarily. why would they do something like this, which might seem at first blush to be backing down. there were a couple of reasons, scott. first of all they looked at polling when they were out there at that retreat it looks like the polling that you were just talking about. it showed that americans by a pretty significant margin trust the president over house republicans when it comes to things like the deficit which is one of their signature issues. and spending and the economy. what republican leaders were trying to convey to some of their more junior members, perhaps who like the idea of really holding the white house's feet to the fire on issues like this, if we want to be seen as a governing party not just an opposition party that is constantly threatening to take the government in to a shutdown or default we are going to have to show that we are reasonable. and the fact is that they are going to hold this vote now and they still get another bite of the apple three months from now to try
ceiling temporarily. why would they do something like this, which might seem at first blush to be backing down. there were a couple of reasons, scott. first of all they looked at polling when they were out there at that retreat it looks like the polling that you were just talking about. it showed that americans by a pretty significant margin trust the president over house republicans when it comes to things like the deficit which is one of their signature issues. and spending and the economy....
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. >> i, too, noticed those offers on things like the debt ceiling. but, general, what you've -- there's the real first couple of new york and washington, d.c. beyonce and jay-z entering. that will get a lot of attention. we just missed james taylor coming down the stairs. general, there's just flat out hatred out there, too. there is nastiness out there in the land. there's nastiness between these two parties. there's the president and mrs. carter. how do we fix that? let's especially go to the republican party. they've got -- they've been -- they've been caucusing. they've been quite literally in retreat these past few days. house republicans. what do they do to widen, if it is in their interests, widen their doorway to membership, to entry? >> well, as i've been saying and sat with david gregory the other day, the party is not where the american people have been in recent years. when you lose an election, you have 47% or 46% negative you better figure out what is wrong. for the last several weeks, a lot of people have been speaking to me. why didn'
. >> i, too, noticed those offers on things like the debt ceiling. but, general, what you've -- there's the real first couple of new york and washington, d.c. beyonce and jay-z entering. that will get a lot of attention. we just missed james taylor coming down the stairs. general, there's just flat out hatred out there, too. there is nastiness out there in the land. there's nastiness between these two parties. there's the president and mrs. carter. how do we fix that? let's especially go...
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let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes outside with the outside game and tries to g
let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun...